Charlie Copeland = Jobs & People
John Kowalko = Cap & Trade, RGGI & Unions.
Notice the opponent of industry, the redistributionist Kowalko, never mentions one iota of sympathy for those involved. John Kowalko’s a good guy. He’s just dead wrong too often.
We need jobs, folks. And people with political views like John Kowalko will be nowhere near a rebirth of our job creation economy. Nobody gives a hoot that John Kowalko doesn’t like Valero and wants to score political points off of Charlie Copeland’s back.
What matters is that 1,500 Delaware families are suffering tonight.
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I said a lot of the same things on Delaware Liberal, but they deleted my comment.
Yeah. They do that.
“To hell with Shell.” Right, Kowalko, you friggin’ socialist?
Bright side: more people to put on the government payroll.
Rather than bickering over the partisan stuff, we need to move forward more productively for Delaware.
What is needed now is to immediately sort out the next steps. Jobs are lost, but maybe they will try to use the large tank farm as a transport site, saving a few hundred jobs and making a large part of the site a bit more useful than an idle toxic wasteland. At present, this would violate the Del. Coastal Zone Act. A great law that has accomplished great things, but may need to be modified for the changing world to keep it relevant and useful.
As for those RGGI issues, OK. It is here. DNREC needs staff to do the work. But why are they hiring new positions, rather than retraining the engineers and scientist that once monitored Valero? This would make good organizational sense when the permit fees stop coming in, build on the existing strength, meet a new need with existing expertise while reduce government costs (or at least not increasing them in these economic times!!!)
Will may here about these issue next Monday at the DNREC budget hearing, or may not if they have not been considered. The top secret re-organization plans for DNREC are expected to be released at that time. Apparently they exist, but no one has seen them. They are secret.
Perhaps some of the details will be released in advance, as the DNREC Secretary has called a special meeting with the Sierra Club, League of Woman Voters, The Nature Conservancy, and the Delaware Nature Society on Nov. 24 at 3:30 PM at Ashland Nature Center to brief them on issues related to the DNREC Budget hearing. I don’t know why the special interest group is being briefed, rather than doing this in a more public forum.
Thanks for your input, anon. Some good ideas in there. I’m very interested to hear how they plan to reorganize DNREC, and why the Administration is holding more secret meetings, and why they are including only environmental groups and not the affected parties they regulate in the industrial and development communities.
It’s another disturbing example of the lack of actual transparency in this administration despite their language to the contrary.
Dave, you know very well that there are some valid reasons for government leaders to have meetings behind closed doors, you know, like a huddle in football. So I take your carping as disingenuous!
For example, there will be plenty of time to criticize the DNREC reorganization plans when released. In the meantime, there are certainly personnel issues involved that are appropriately handled behind closed doors.
Perry — They’re not having personnel meetings. They’re having secret meetings with external interest groups. There’s not a lick of difference between this and Cheney meeting with energy executives. I’m sure you offered a throaty defense of that, too.
LOL! Yeah, and the Torah advocates Aztec-style human sacrifice. Oh, sorry, Perry — I know how much you detest any mention of anything Jewish….
I’m pretty sure John Kowalko never dissolved a man in acid.
Your point?
Look, I don’t mean to insinuate that John Kowalko doesn’t care about the affected people. I’ve seen enough of Kowalko to know that he cares very deeply. So why not express sympathy for the workers and leave it at that? Instead he attacks Copeland? Seriously?
This “attack” happened on a radio show hosted by Copeland, right? So I guess we’d need the audio to see who attacked whom, or who cares about people or not.
No. It did not. The attack was on Delaware Liberal, in response to Copeland’s post. Those are the two links at the top this post. Kowalko was on Allan Loudell’s radio show and may have continued his attack there.
Reading the two posts, I still think Kowalko’s focus on Charlie was inappropriate, and his complete bashing of a major employer will I’m sure go over well with any other out-of-state company that would bring jobs here. Elected officials calling companies ‘carpetbaggers,’ regardless of their sins, is a great way to ensure that those jobs never get replaced.
“There’s not a lick of difference between this and Cheney meeting with energy executives.”
The “lick of difference” is that Cheney would not even reveal who he had meetings with.
That is more than a “lick.” That is more like a huge gulp of difference.
This DNREC meeting wasn’t “revealed.” It was leaked anonymously on a blog.
No difference. Secret meeting with interest group to discuss policy.
The attack was on Delaware Liberal, in response to Copeland’s post. Those are the two links at the top this post. Kowalko was on Allan Loudell’s radio show and may have continued his attack there.
I’ll wait for the audio rather than rely on your characterization of it. Primary sources, remember?
“I’ll wait for the audio rather than rely on your characterization of it. Primary sources, remember?”
Do I need to use smaller words, or bigger links?
Copeland writes post.
Kowalko writes post criticizing Copeland.
I never mentioned the radio, you did. And how much more primary can you get than Kowalko’s own words in print?
Don’t play dumb. Kowalko’s letter makes it clear he is responding to Copeland’s radio comments.
So if you want to judge whether Kowalko’s letter was a proper response, or an “attack” – you would need the audio.
COPELAND WAS NOT ON THE RADIO.
He’s not talking about Copeland’s radio comments. There were no radio comments. He’s likening Copeland to Rick Jensen in a negative light, but even then, you can note the word “blogosphere” in the statement.
I know you’re always looking for something to obfuscate the obvious in order to distract from the matter at hand. But in this case, it ain’t there.
OK – my bad. I guess you needed to put it in all caps for me to understand. I know Copeland did guest hosting so I thought he was doing it again. I thought that was the source of the Kowalko thing; that’s what I got out of the DL letter. Sorry to Charlie and yourself if that’s not the case.
“This DNREC meeting wasn’t “revealed.” It was leaked anonymously on a blog.”
Um, any confirmation of these “Secret meeting with interest group to discuss policy” that you say are no different from the Vice President’s secret meetings?
Or are you going to just spread rumors and then attack DNREC with “just like Cheney” nonsense?
I heard that DNREC is going to be giving out secret decoder rings with Capt’n Crunch pictures on them, only the captain looks like Markell. This is going to happen at Boston Market on 202 at 2:30 on November 31st. Maybe you should check that out.
Given DNREC’s history, I’m with Burris on this one.
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